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- From: Nils Anders Danielsson <nad AT Cs.Nott.AC.UK>
- To: Agda list <agda AT lists.chalmers.se>, Coq Club <coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr>
- Subject: [Coq-Club] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?
- Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:53:45 +0100
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On 2009-09-01 17:16, Edsko de Vries wrote:
Right. So, we have a relation R (weak bisimularity), which is provably
transitive. Then, we can give a definition of a similar relation R'
which is like R except that it has an extra, inductive, transitivity
rule. This is "useful" in the sense that a proof which was previously
transitivity_lemma (...) (coinductive_constructor (...)
coinductive_recursive_call))
and was rejected because the coinductive_recursive_call was not
guarded can now be replaced by
transitivity_constructor (...) (coinductive_constructor (...)
coinductive_recursive_call))
which *is* guarded. It is not "sound" in the sense that R' is larger than R.
Yes, and the reason why it is not sound is that transitivity_lemma is
not (in some sense) contractive: the lemma consumes coinductive
constructors "faster" than it produces them.
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- Re: [Agda] Re: [Coq-Club] Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound? (was: Need help with coinductive proof), Edsko de Vries
- Re: [Agda] Re: [Coq-Club] Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound? (was: Need help with coinductive proof), Edsko de Vries
- Re: [Agda] Re: [Coq-Club] Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound? (was: Need help with coinductive proof),
Thorsten Altenkirch
- Re: [Agda] Re: [Coq-Club] Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound? (was: Need help with coinductive proof),
Edsko de Vries
- [Coq-Club] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?,
Nils Anders Danielsson
- [Coq-Club] Re: [Agda] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?,
Edsko de Vries
- [Coq-Club] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?, Nils Anders Danielsson
- [Coq-Club] Re: [Agda] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?,
Edsko de Vries
- [Coq-Club] Re: Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound?,
Nils Anders Danielsson
- Re: [Agda] Re: [Coq-Club] Adding (inductive) transitivity to weak bisimilarity not sound? (was: Need help with coinductive proof),
Edsko de Vries
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