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- From: Dominique Larchey-Wendling <dominique.larchey-wendling AT loria.fr>
- To: Adam Chlipala <adamc AT csail.mit.edu>
- Cc: coq-club AT inria.fr, vladimir AT ias.edu, chris.dams.nl AT gmail.com
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:46:15 +0100
- Organization: LORIA
Thx very much Adam, Vladimir and Chris for your quick answers,
With your pointers, the situation is much clearer for me now.
Indeed inj_pair2 in EqdepFacts corresponds to what I needed.
As I understand, inj_pair2 is a consequence of the axiom eq_rect_eq
in Eqdep which expresses the "invariance by substitution of
reflexive equality proofs."
Is eq_rect_eq the axiom that has been proved independent from CIC ?
Vladimir suggests that inj_pair2 itself is refuted in a
specific (univalent) model of CIC ?
Also, the axiom eq_rect_eq is provable when restricted on
types with decidable equality and thus, the injectivity
of projT2 is provable on decidable types. This is
inj_pairT2 in Eqdep_dec.
Anyway, thanks again,
Dominique
PS: may be the Coq FAQ could mention the problem of
the injectivity of projT2 and/or why existT is a
constructor on which the injectivity tactic fails.
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On 01/25/2012 09:32 PM, Adam Chlipala wrote:
On 01/25/2012 01:57 PM,
Dominique.Larchey-Wendling AT loria.fr
wrote:
I am new to this list and perhaps my question is a bit naive but how
can I prove
the following result ?
Section Test.
Variable X : Type.
Variable P : X -> Type.
Proposition projT2_fun (x : X) (s1 s2 : P x) : existT _ x s1 = existT
_ x s2
-> s1 = s2.
I wish I could reply with a pointer to a standard FAQ location, but I'm
not sure such a place exists. Nonetheless, coq-club gets this question
every few weeks. :)
The theorem you suggest is not provable in Coq; it is formally
independent from CIC. In the [Eqdep] module of the standard library, you
can find a proof in terms of an axiom that has been proved on paper to
be consistent with CIC. I think the theorem is [inj_pair2].
- [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2, Dominique . Larchey-Wendling
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2,
Adam Chlipala
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2,
Vladimir Voevodsky
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2, Eric Finster
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2, Dominique Larchey-Wendling
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2, Daniel Schepler
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2,
Vladimir Voevodsky
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2,
Chris Dams
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2, Vladimir Voevodsky
- Re: [Coq-Club] Rewriting / dependent type / projT2,
Adam Chlipala
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