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Re: [Coq-Club] Negating predicative universals into existentials


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  • From: Daniel Schepler <dschepler AT gmail.com>
  • To: Coq Club <coq-club AT inria.fr>
  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Negating predicative universals into existentials
  • Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 12:27:16 -0700

You'd probably need to assume the axiom of choice as well, in order to
say anything about whether (forall n:U, P n) is empty or not.
--
Daniel Schepler

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eddy Westbrook
<westbrook AT kestrel.edu>
wrote:
> All,
>
> The library Coq.Logic.Classical_Pred_Type gives a proof, using
> (propositional) excluded middle, that the negation of a forall is an exists:
>
> Lemma not_all_ex_not :
> forall U:Type, forall P:U -> Prop, ~ (forall n:U, P n) -> exists n : U, ~
> P n.
>
> Does anyone know if the version of this that makes P predicative, using
> Type, is provable as well? That is, I am trying to prove:
>
> Lemma not_all_ex_not_pred :
> forall U:Type, forall P:U -> Type, ((forall n:U, P n) -> False) -> exists
> n : U, P n -> False.
>
> Thanks,
> -Eddy



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