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- From: Thorsten Altenkirch <Thorsten.Altenkirch AT nottingham.ac.uk>
- To: "coq-club AT inria.fr" <coq-club AT inria.fr>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals
- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:16:30 +0000
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I always mean “computable” when I say “function”.
A “function” which doesn’t “function” shouldn’t be called a “function”. :-)
Please burn your set theory books.
Sure, I define the reals as a quotient so any function will have to respect the equivalence.
So in my book any function over the reals is well defined and computable. Just call it a function for simplicity.
Thorsten
From: Daniel Schepler <dschepler AT gmail.com>
Reply-To: "coq-club AT inria.fr" <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:36:07 +0000
To: Coq Club <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals
Reply-To: "coq-club AT inria.fr" <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:36:07 +0000
To: Coq Club <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thorsten Altenkirch <Thorsten.Altenkirch AT nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:Yves makes a very good point: All the functions from the Reals to Bool are
constant because all computable functions are continuous. This clearly
limits very much what we can do with real numbers, they are a bit of a
³black hole² as far as information is concerned.I think you mean any computable, *well defined* function from the reals is continuous. It's easy enough to write a function which e.g. takes an approximation of the input to six decimal places, and returns true if the approximation is within 10^-5 of zero. I think that's one sort of thing that numerical algorithms tend to do - check if some result is within some epsilon of zero, or within some epsilon of being positive, etc. Sure, in the boundary cases that will tend to goof up, but you try to arrange things so that the algorithm works correctly in the "generic" case.--Daniel Schepler
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- [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, CHAUVIN Barnabe, 12/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, bertot, 12/08/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Thorsten Altenkirch, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Daniel Schepler, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Thorsten Altenkirch, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Daniel Schepler, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Cedric Auger, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Daniel Schepler, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Thorsten Altenkirch, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Arthur Azevedo de Amorim, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Bas Spitters, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Eddy Westbrook, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Daniel Schepler, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Thorsten Altenkirch, 12/09/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, Bas Spitters, 12/08/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] A few questions about reals, bertot, 12/08/2014
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