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- From: Siddharth Bhat <siddu.druid AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?
- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:27:12 +0530
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Could you please expand on "propositional truncation" and what that means?
I googled, and what I gather is that it is some existential witness of inhabitation of a type that does not provide an explicit witness?
If so, I don't see how this gives rise to quotients -- could you please give me a sketch of the construction?
Thanks,
siddharth
On Fri 27 Jul, 2018, 13:20 Bas Spitters, <b.a.w.spitters AT gmail.com> wrote:
Matthieu and Amin recently went through such questions in the set model of CIC:
drops.dagstuhl.de/opus/volltexte/2018/9199/pdf/LIPIcs-FSCD-2018-29.pdf
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Steven Schäfer
<s.schaefer89 AT googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Abhishek,
>
> Quotient types exist and proof irrelevance (along with propositional
> and functional extensionality) holds in the setoid model of type
> theory. The difference to higher-inductive types is that you cannot
> add computation rules on paths, since that would give you homotopy
> pushouts and thus also the circle and other non-hsets.
>
> If you are worried about consistency you could also just axiomatize
> the "propositional trunctation" (or rather, squash types as in NuPRL)
> and then derive quotient types from that together with funext/propext.
>
> - Steven
>
> 2018-07-26 23:27 GMT+02:00 Abhishek Anand <abhishek.anand.iitg AT gmail.com>:
>> I understand that UIP (implied by proof irrelevance) is inconsistent with
>> univalence.
>>
>> Can higher inductive types (or just some kind of "level 1" quotients where I
>> don't care about distinguishing equality proofs) be added to Coq without
>> needing to blacklist the proof irrelevance axiom?
>>
>> --
>> -- Abhishek
>> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~aa755/
Sending this from my phone, please excuse any typos!
- [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Abhishek Anand, 07/26/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Jason -Zhong Sheng- Hu, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Steven Schäfer, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Bas Spitters, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Siddharth Bhat, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Steven Schäfer, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Bas Spitters, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Steven Schäfer, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Siddharth Bhat, 07/27/2018
- Re: [Coq-Club] coq + higher inductive types + proof irrelevance?, Bas Spitters, 07/27/2018
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