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- From: "Lasser, Samuel M." <Samuel.Lasser AT tufts.edu>
- To: "coq-club AT inria.fr" <coq-club AT inria.fr>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:45:29 +0000
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We could adopt "Copa" as a standard acronym for "Coq Proof Assistant." It would allow French speakers to refer to the tool as "Coq" if that's an important consideration, and it would allow English speakers to use a name
that isn't spelled or pronounced like the one in question.
The Barry Manilow association is unfortunate, but "Copacabana" would at least be a decent name for a package index :)
One could still say or write "Coq Proof Assistant" when the situation requires it, but I can't think of many such situations. It's rare to hear people talking about "Prototype Verification System" or "A Computational Logic
for Applicative Common Lisp."
From: coq-club-request AT inria.fr <coq-club-request AT inria.fr> on behalf of Santiago Bautista <santiago.bautista AT ens-rennes.fr>
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:33 PM
To: coq-club AT inria.fr <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:33 PM
To: coq-club AT inria.fr <coq-club AT inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
That is a reason why the proposed alternative "Gallus" is very good : it
keeps the exact same symbol of french identity and national pride, while
solving the problem.
On 4/7/21 3:42 PM, Tadeusz Litak wrote:
> Anyway, the proposed list of "reasons to keep" does not include the
> most important one (apart from massive legacy, second to none in
> fact). One would need to reformulate point 2. It is not just about
> making sense in French. If it is correct that Coq's name appeals to
> French national pride and that it helps to get funding and
> institutional support in France, this is a huge issue.
>
>
keeps the exact same symbol of french identity and national pride, while
solving the problem.
On 4/7/21 3:42 PM, Tadeusz Litak wrote:
> Anyway, the proposed list of "reasons to keep" does not include the
> most important one (apart from massive legacy, second to none in
> fact). One would need to reformulate point 2. It is not just about
> making sense in French. If it is correct that Coq's name appeals to
> French national pride and that it helps to get funding and
> institutional support in France, this is a huge issue.
>
>
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, (continued)
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Luís Cruz-Filipe, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, nicolas tabareau, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Derek Dreyer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Paolo Torrini, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Talia Ringer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Sam Kuper, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Joyal , André, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Santiago Bautista, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Jay Kruer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Théo Zimmermann, 04/09/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Lasser, Samuel M., 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Joyal , André, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Benedikt Ahrens, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Ashish Darbari, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Harley D. Eades III, 04/10/2021
- [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, John Soo, 04/10/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Jim Fehrle, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Petar Maksimovic, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Wilayat Khan, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Nestor Catano, 04/07/2021
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