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- From: casteran AT labri.fr
- To: Benjamin Werner <werner AT lix.polytechnique.fr>
- Cc: Lionel Elie Mamane <lionel AT mamane.lu>, echarpen AT math.u-bordeaux.fr, coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] ordinal numbers in Coq
- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:58:52 +0200
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Selon Benjamin Werner
<werner AT lix.polytechnique.fr>:
>
> In general it depends of what ordinals you want to deal with. You can get
> a subset of the set-theoretical ordinals with the well-known example (but
> Pierre is certainly aware of that) :
>
> Inductive Ord : Type :=
> O_Ord : Ord
> | S_ord : Ord -> Ord
> | lim_Ord : (nat->Ord) -> Ord.
>
> Which is a form of ordinal notation.
>
> When considering ordinals like in set-theory, the problem is that the
> usual definition is fundamentally classical (ordinals are sets which,
> among other things, have the property that their elements are totaly
> ordered wrt. membership).
>
> Paul Taylor has a big paper where he develops ordinals constructively. On
> the other hand, he heavily relies on impredicativity. A few years back, I
> adapted his developement into Coq (on top of the Ens type) and it works
> quite well. I did not know what to do with this and have not advertized
> this work. If you think you have a use for it, I would be happy to talk
> about it.
>
Hello Benjamin,
Thank you for your answer,
My goal is to write in Coq (just for fun:-)) the proof of convergence
of the Goodstein sequence. I wanted to be sure that the inductive
definition you cite above is enough for that purpose.
Amitiés,
Pierre
>
> Amities,
>
>
> Benjamin
>
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Lionel Elie Mamane
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Benjamin Werner
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Lionel Elie Mamane
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Lionel Elie Mamane
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