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- From: Thorsten Altenkirch <txa AT Cs.Nott.AC.UK>
- To: Coq Club <coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr>
- Subject: [Coq-Club] Russell's paradox
- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:12:58 +0000
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Hi,
I would like to encode Russell's paradox in Coq for my class, or more precisely Thierry's version of it (the paradox of trees). But how do I assume tat there is a set of all sets, or Set : Set?
The easiest would be if there were a switch to switch off size checking. Is there?
Ok, I could just assume that there is a set of all sets:
Variable set : Set.
Variable name : Set -> set.
Variable El : set -> Set.
Axiom reflect : forall A:Set,El (name A) = A.
but I got into trouble with this. While I can construct a function
fst : El (name { a:A | P a}) -> A.
I am having trouble with
snd : forall ap : El (name { a:A | P a}) ,P (fst ap)
Dually, there is no problem with
mk : forall a:A, (P a) -> El (name { a:A | P a})
but I also need
mkOk : forall (a:A) (p:P a) , fst (mk a p) = a
I suspect I need K (or I am just too stupid). Can anybody conform either? I.e. can I prove this using Coq.Logic.Eqdep or without?
I attach my Russell file with the two additional assumptions I'd like to eliminate.
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Cheers,
Thorsten
- [Coq-Club] Russell's paradox, Thorsten Altenkirch
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