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- From: Vladimir Voevodsky <vladimir AT ias.edu>
- To: Bruno Barras <bruno.barras AT inria.fr>
- Cc: coq-club AT inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Existence of a generalization
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:27:07 -0400
Actually the quotients which I use ( setquot from hSet.v in
https://github.com/vladimirias/Foundations ) are quite well behaved.
"Subtyping" in the sense of using the notion of an inclusion also works quite
well.
Vladimir.
On Nov 3, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bruno Barras wrote:
> On 11/03/2011 01:57 PM, Adam Chlipala wrote:
>> I'd put it this way: when some development is said to be doable in ZF
>> but not CIC, I immediately doubt whether the development has practical
>> value. Not that there's anything wrong with impractical mathematics.... ;)
>
> Well, it's hard to find something doable in ZF and not in CIC. At least,
> you need to use replacement at its extreme power, which is probably not the
> case of "practical mathematics".
>
> The question is not being able to do something, but rather to do it with
> limited pain. In the top 2 concepts that are easy in set theory and
> "awkward" in (Coq's) type theory, I'd put subtyping and quotients.
> The latter being not always easy in ZF (without axiom of choice)...
>
> Bruno.
>
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