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- From: Vladimir Voevodsky <vladimir AT ias.edu>
- To: Aleksandar Nanevski <aleks.nanevski AT imdea.org>
- Cc: coq-club AT inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities
- Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:20:36 -0400
- Envelope-to: aleks.nanevski AT imdea.org, coq-club AT inria.fr
No.
not((A or (not A)) = False) <-> not(not(A or (not A)) <-> not ((not A) and A) <-> not(False) <-> True.
V.
On Aug 5, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Aleksandar Nanevski wrote:
Is False supposed to be the type B that gets cancelled in my example
A1 * B = A2 * B -> A1 = A2?
If so, then I'm not sure your argument applies. I have postulated that B is nonempty, and hence can't be False.
I now realize that the same issue appears in Vladimir's email: If B = (A or not A) is nonempty, then isn't excluded middle already assumed?
-Aleks
On 8/5/12 12:53 PM, andré hirschowitz wrote:
This could probably be simplified into
False * True <-> False <-> False * False.
ah
2012/8/4 Vladimir Voevodsky <vladimir AT ias.edu>
This is not provable. In fact in combination with propositional extensionality (axiom saying that for A,B:Prop one has (A<->B)->(A=B ) it would imply the excluded middle.
Indeed, for all A:Prop, (A or (not A) is nonempty and on the other hand
((A or (not A)) and True) <-> (A or (not A) ) <-> ((A or (not A)) and (A or (not A)))
- [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleks Nanevski, 08/04/2012
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- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Kristopher Micinski, 08/04/2012
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- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Chung-Kil Hur, 08/04/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/04/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, andré hirschowitz, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Adam Chlipala, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, andré hirschowitz, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/06/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Vladimir Voevodsky, 08/05/2012
- Re: [Coq-Club] reasoning out of type equalities, Aleksandar Nanevski, 08/05/2012
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