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- From: Bas Spitters <b.a.w.spitters AT gmail.com>
- To: Coq Club <coq-club AT inria.fr>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] VM/native mode within Coq
- Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:41:06 +0200
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There are at least to projects trying to improve the level of trust:
http://www.maximedenes.fr/download/coqonut.pdf
https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/certicoq/
I'll leave it to the people involved to say more.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Freek Wiedijk
<freek AT cs.ru.nl>
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> On the CakeML developers mailing list, there was a mention of:
>
> <http://gallium.inria.fr/blog/coq-eval/>
>
> Then Magnus wrote;
>
> Interesting! So Xavier Leroy can run CompCert inside Coq at about
> 15 % of normal speeds, which of course is much better than we can
> hope for with EVAL in HOL4.
>
> I'd love to have fast evaluation mechanisms in HOL4. However,
> support for evaluation in a VM/native mode would require
> *significant* modifications to HOL4's trusted kernel...
>
> I wonder what the trust issues are when computing with the
> VM/native mode within Coq. The jumps into and out of the VM/native
> mode sound scary regarding the trust story of the prover. Are
> these VM/native-mechanisms in fact not trusted and somehow
> cleanly separated from the trusted part of Coq's kernel?
>
> And then I wondered how people on the Coq list feel about this,
> and got permission from Magnus to repost his message here.
>
> Freek
- [Coq-Club] VM/native mode within Coq, Freek Wiedijk, 09/30/2015
- Re: [Coq-Club] VM/native mode within Coq, Bas Spitters, 09/30/2015
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