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- From: roux cody <cody.roux AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Impredicativity of Prop
- Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:47:35 -0500
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I can try to explain what this mysterious user meant :)
This explains my comment: reassuring means "we have enough logical power for the foreseeable future" and "reasonable" means "we're not going to try and formalize large cardinal theory".
https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/avigad/Talks/asl04.pdf
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/set-theory-constructive/#PreConSetThe
Cody
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Talia Ringer <tringer AT cs.washington.edu> wrote:
University of WashingtonI want to know more about that expressiveness. Why is it "reassuring," and what is "reasonable"? (I couldn't find a working email address for Cody Roux, or I'd try him as well.) Is it essential, or does it just make some things easier?Hi all,Does anyone have a good resource to read about why Prop is impredicative, and why this is desirable? So far, I've found Adam Chlipala's Universes post and some answers to a stackexchange question. I'd like something a little more formal. For example, in the stackexchange post, Cody Roux notes:
> The expressiveness gained by impredicativity is "reassuring" in the sense 99% of "reasonable"
> mathematics can be formalized with it, and it is known to be consistent relative to set theory. This
> makes it likely they won't weaken it to something like Agda, which only has predicative universes.Similarly, Adam Chlipala's post has a few interesting examples of things we can do with impredicative Prop, but I'm interested in something broader and more formal. A research paper or talk would be great, if such a thing exists.Thanks!Talia
- [Coq-Club] Impredicativity of Prop, Talia Ringer, 02/24/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] Impredicativity of Prop, roux cody, 02/24/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] Impredicativity of Prop, Talia Ringer, 02/24/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] Impredicativity of Prop, roux cody, 02/24/2016
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