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- From: Julian Michael <julianjohnmichael AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2)
- Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:39:26 -0800
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whoops, Robbert beat me to it :) yup, generally to verify that a proposition
isn't intuitionistically provable, you can reduce it to LEM, WEM (~p \/ ~~p),
or the law of double negation (~~p -> p); the latter two of which are
equivalent to LEM when taken together. Also, if it's classically provable and
begins with a negation, then it's intuitionistically provable (by Glivenko's
theorem). But these are just tools for propositional formulas.
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Robbert Krebbers
> <mailinglists AT robbertkrebbers.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/25/2016 05:52 PM, Stefan Ciobaca wrote:
>> I'm wondering if the following is provable constructively:
>>
>> forall (P1 P2 : Prop),
>> (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2).
> No, from this you can prove the classical "double negation" axiom:
>
> Goal
> (forall (P1 P2 : Prop), (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2)) ->
> forall (P : Prop), ~~P -> P.
> Proof. intros ax P HP; now apply (ax P (~P)). Qed.
>
> This is done by taking (P1:=P) and (P2:=~P), so this gives:
>
> (P <-> ~~P) <-> (~ P <-> ~P).
>
> The RHS is trivial, and the LHS is double negation. Qed :).
>
> Best,
>
> Robbert
- [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Stefan Ciobaca, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Benoît Viguier, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Jonathan Leivent, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Julian Michael, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Robbert Krebbers, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Julian Michael, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Ralf Jung, 02/25/2016
- Re: [Coq-Club] constructive proof of (P1 <-> ~ P2) <-> (~ P1 <-> P2), Michel Levy, 02/25/2016
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