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Re: [Coq-Club] How strong is this deferredFix axiom?


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  • From: Joachim Breitner <mail AT joachim-breitner.de>
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  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] How strong is this deferredFix axiom?
  • Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 10:50:19 -0500
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Dear Gaëtan,

please allow me to get back to this.

Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2017, 21:56 +0100 schrieb Gaëtan Gilbert:
> It's equivalent to epsilon.
>
> Let A : Type. Consider the function
>
> λ x : A + bool => match x with inl a => inl a | inr b => inr (not b)
>
> It has a fixed point if and only if A is inhabited, but A + bool is
> always inhabited (eg by inl true).
>
> In the attached file I use this to prove epsilon from your axioms.

in your file you define

Lemma epsilon A (H : inhabited A) : A.

but that is not (as I first thought) the epsilon from
Coq.Logic.ClassicalEpsilon or Coq.Logic.Epsilon, which is

Definition epsilon (A : Type) (i:inhabited A) (P : A->Prop) : A


I see that your [epsilon] allows me to get a value out of an
[inhabited A], which is usually not allowed, but what are the
consequences of that? How does it related to the full Hilbert’s axiom?


Thanks,
Joachim

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Joachim Breitner

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