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  • From: Guillaume Claret <guillaume AT claret.me>
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  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
  • Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 11:50:58 +0200
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I am strongly against changing the name.

Le 06/04/2021 à 11:49, Paolo Torrini a écrit :
Since there's already an *important* distinction between language (Galllina) and prover (Coq), wouldn't it actually make sense to introduce a new name to designate the whole lot?

Say, one could simply abbreviate Gallina-Coq to Galliq, or call it Roost, or anything else appropriate. That would save from explicitly changing name, while defusing the anglophone issue - and it might even help to make things more precise.

Best,

PT

On 06/04/2021 11:04, Derek Dreyer wrote:
Personally, I would support changing the name *and* the logo.

The root problem is the name -- I rather doubt the logo would be
controversial if it were not for the name.  As is well known, the name
was deliberately intended partly as a joke, to provoke people -- it
has succeeded in that regard.  But mostly at this point it is just
embarrassing to a lot of us, and probably exacerbates the gender
disparity in Coq users.

I have heard people say that it is hard to change the name.  I agree,
it is hard, but that doesn't mean IMO that it's not worth exploring.
I bet that many Coq users would be very open to a name change if a
catchy new name were proposed by the Coq team.  I would, for one.
(And I'm happy to help brainstorm about new names privately if anyone
cares to have that discussion.)  Of course, perhaps I am wrong: it
might be worth polling Coq users about whether they would like to see
the name changed, if that has not been done already.

That said, if there is not sufficient support for changing the name, I
would at least support changing the logo to something that is less
open to interpretation and more clearly resembles a normal rooster (or
even Ilya's steampunk rooster).

Best regards,
Derek


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:49 PM James R Wilcox <jrw12 AT cs.washington.edu> wrote:
I had never noticed this before, despite apologizing for the name of the proof assistant to my students for many years. This year, I had a student point out to me the

flesh-colored logo with what looks like a mushroom top

and now I can't unsee it.

Isn't it time for a new logo?

James R. Wilcox
University of Washington, Seattle



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