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- From: Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine <p.l.lumsdaine AT gmail.com>
- To: Adam Chlipala <adam AT chlipala.net>
- Cc: Daniel Schepler <dschepler AT gmail.com>, coq-club AT inria.fr, David Baelde <david.baelde AT gmail.com>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Parametricity
- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:32:37 -0300
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>> On Wednesday 30 March 2011 07:13:22 David Baelde wrote:
>>
>>> […] can we prove from inside Coq that any
>>> function of type (forall A:Type, A -> bool) is extensively equal to
>>> some constant function?
> Daniel Schepler wrote:
>>
>> No, if you add
>> Axiom classic_dec: forall P:Prop, {P} + {~P}.
>> then you can define
>> Definition inhabited_bool (A:Type) : bool :=
>> if classic_dec (inhabited A) then true else false.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Adam Chlipala
<adam AT chlipala.net>
wrote:
>
> Is this function really a counterexample? It doesn't include the argument
> of type [A] from the original question.
Once one has the decidability axiom, one can certainly find plenty of
counterexamples; for instance, the function defined as “the identity
on bool, or the constantly true function on any other type”:
Axiom classic_dec: forall P:Prop, {P} + {~P}.
Definition non_parametric : forall A:Type, A -> bool.
intros A.
case (classic_dec (A = bool)) as [ A_eq_bool | A_neq_bool ].
(* case A = bool *)
intros x. rewrite A_eq_bool in x. exact x.
(* case A <> bool *)
intros x. exact true.
Defined.
So again, if the decidability axiom is consistent (and as I
understand, it is generally believed to be) then parametricity is not
provable.
–Peter.
- [Coq-Club] Parametricity, David Baelde
- Re: [Coq-Club] Parametricity,
Daniel Schepler
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