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Re: [Coq-Club] A criticism to CIC from the point of view of foundations of mathematics (Voevodsky's argument)


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  • From: Freek Wiedijk <freek AT cs.ru.nl>
  • To: coq-club AT inria.fr
  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] A criticism to CIC from the point of view of foundations of mathematics (Voevodsky's argument)
  • Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 08:37:40 +0200
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Hi Russell,

>> To give this a little twist: is a classical proof that
>> a constructive proof exists just as good as having a
>> constructive proof? Or does the latter give you something
>> extra?
>
>It is just as good.
>
>A classical proof that a constructive proof exists is a Sigma_1 sentence. By
>Goedel's Dialetical interpretation all Pi_2 (and hence Sigma_1) sentences
>provable classically are provable constructively. So it we can mechanically
>transform it into a constructive proof that a constructive proof exists, from
>which one can extract said constructive proof.

I guess you're talking about HA versus PA here?

But what if my "classical proof" is from ZF? Or from ZFC?
Or from a consistent extension of ZFC by throwing in some
large cardinal axioms? Is that classical proof then still
just as good?

Freek



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