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- From: "Roland Zumkeller" <roland.zumkeller AT gmail.com>
- To: "Jean Goubault-Larrecq" <goubault AT lsv.ens-cachan.fr>
- Cc: coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Big inductive proofs
- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:21:03 +0100
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Hi,
You can verify the hypothesis that it's due to the guard condition
with the command "Guarded", which checks the condition during a proof.
When verifying the guard condition, Coq makes some reductions in order
to allow fixpoint definitions where the recursive *reduces* to a
subterm of the argument, but is not syntactically given in this way,
e.g.:
Fixpoint f n {struct n} := match n with O => O | S n' => f (0+n') end.
Probably some of these reductions are superfluous in your case and
lead to long computations. A possible workaround is to hide the
corresponding subterms/proofs by making them section hypotheses.
You can then instantiate them after the fixpoint definition has already been
accepted.
Hope this helps.
Roland
On 10/03/2008, Jean Goubault-Larrecq
<goubault AT lsv.ens-cachan.fr>
wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm generating big Coq proofs automatically,
> which use 'fix' a lot across Remarks with transparent
> proofs. To state what's happening to me, Coq seems
> to get stuck at the end of a Remark called rem_2421
> at line 32969 --- numbers to give an idea of size.
> Arrived here, it seems to process the closing 'Defined'
> indefinitely. I have been waiting for 11 minutes
> already. This already happened earlier in the same file,
> but is getting more and more of a problem as Coq
> advances in it (it is stuck at roughly 5% of the file).
> I strongly suspect that Coq is lost checking
> for the guard conditions in the terms. After all,
> my Coq process is 57360 Kb big at this point, is
> only 8136 Kb at startup, and the rest (~ 50 Mb) is
> roughly just one big lambda-term.
>
> Is this a known problem with fix?
>
> Is there a way to speed it up, apart
> from changing my Coq proof generation algorithm?
> (An option that I've now almost exhausted.)
>
> I can provide the example at will, but
> emailing it would be a breach of etiquette. Of
> course I cannot make any smaller example: size seems
> precisely to be the problem.
>
> Best,
>
>
> -- Jean Goubault-Larrecq
> (LSV/ENS Cachan & CNRS UMR 8643 & INRIA projet SECSI).
>
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