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Re: [Coq-Club] [Metamath] A criticism to CIC from the point of view of foundations of mathematics (Voevodsky's argument)


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  • From: José Manuel Rodriguez Caballero <josephcmac AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] [Metamath] A criticism to CIC from the point of view of foundations of mathematics (Voevodsky's argument)
  • Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 18:43:51 +0200
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> To say that the memory of a computer is a standard natural number is a
> valid argument in some cases, but maybe this number is so huge that it
> is better to think about is as non-standard.
I am afraid I cannot understand what you mean here.

When I talk about a computer with large memory, I meant a black hole or the universe. The best way to understand this idea is to try to mechanize in Coq the theorems of this paper by Leonard Susskind: https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9409089  

If you follow an epsilon-delta approach, it will be very complex. It is better to use non-standard models in order to simplify the proofs.




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