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- From: Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel AT gmail.com>
- To: coq-club AT inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:31:48 -0400
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On 4/5/21 2:43 PM, Andrew Appel wrote:
> The English word "bit" was coined by Claude Shannon as an abbreviation of
> "binary digit".
> The French word "bit" is a cognate of the English word.
> The Frech word "mot" is a literal translation of the English word "word",
> so you can translate "32-bit word" as "mot de 32 bits".
>
> The word "byte" was coined by Werner Buchholz of IBM in New York.
> But French computer science terminology uses the word "octet" instead of
> just using the English word "byte".
> To see why, you can use your favorite translation app to translate "bite"
> from English to French.
This isn't quite right. "Byte" isn't offensive in French, and is used
interchangeably with "octet". It's "bit" that sounds offensive, but the
alternative "chiffre binaire" is almost never used.
So, "octet" wasn't coined to avoid an unpleasant connotation, and "bit" does
have an unpleasant connotation yet is commonly used.
> I believe that was (in part) the joke of naming Coq as it is: it's a
> perfectly acceptable word in French, it's a symbol of France itself, as
> well as a play on the name of an inventor (Coquand) and the abbreviation of
> the Calculus of Constructions (coc); and as a special bonus, it makes
> English speakers just as uncomfortable as the use of the word "byte" would
> make a French speaker.
Almost: the final sentence should say 'just as uncomfortable as the pervasive
use of the word "bit" in French.'
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, (continued)
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Fred Smith, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine, 04/05/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Andrew Appel, 04/05/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, James R Wilcox, 04/05/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Santiago Bautista, 04/05/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Sam Kuper, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Andrew Appel, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Clément Pit-Claudel, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Andrew Appel, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Xuanrui Qi, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Raphaël Cauderlier, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Dominique Larchey-Wendling, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Michael Soegtrop, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Théo Zimmermann, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Stefan Monnier, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Sam Kuper, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Sam Kuper, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Hadas Zeilberger, 04/08/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Sam Kuper, 04/09/2021
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