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- From: Edsko de Vries <edskodevries AT gmail.com>
- To: Thorsten Altenkirch <txa AT cs.nott.ac.uk>
- Cc: Coq Club <coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr>, Agda List <agda AT lists.chalmers.se>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Need help with coinductive proof
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:36:55 +0100
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Actually, never mind that mutually recursive bisim datatype. It still has the same problem as the definition with a coinductive/inductive data type. Consider trying to prove that bisimulation is symmetric. This now becomes a mutually-recursive proof:
Lemma bisim_sym : forall m n,
bisim m n -> bisim n m
with bisim'_sym : forall d m n,
bisim' d m n -> bisim' d n m.
in the second part of this proof (bisim') we want to use induction on d; but in the case for strong-tau, we have that bisim n m; we now want to apply strong_tau, then corecursive using bisim_sym to get bisim m n, but again the definition is no longer guarded: we have used bisim_sym as an argument to the induction principle for nat, and the definition is rejected.
This is very frustrating :( Is it really necessary to use something like complete ordered families of equivalences? Why does this seem to much easier in Agda?
Edsko
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