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Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?


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  • From: Derek Dreyer <dreyer AT mpi-sws.org>
  • To: coq-club AT inria.fr
  • Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
  • Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 17:59:05 +0200
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I second Andrew's proposal of adopting "coke" as the preferred English
pronunciation. I don't relish the association of mechanized proofs
with a sugary soft drink or addictive drug, but it's better than the
alternative.

As for the primary concern of the OP, I trust the Coq team to take the
comments in this thread under advisement and work to develop a better
logo.

Thanks,
Derek

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:14 PM Andrew Appel <appel AT princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> Some people I have worked with, Americans who are uncomfortable with the
> word, pronounce Coq in English as "Coke". At the time (several years ago)
> I thought this was silly. Why did I think so? Because it's neither the
> French nor the English pronunciation of Coq or cock, and anyone pronouncing
> it that way is clearly employing a euphemism to avoid discomfort.
>
> In light of this week's discussion, I would say that it's not silly to
> avoid discomfort; especially when the subject of the discomfort is
> entirely irrelevant to the topic of discourse (which is, in this case,
> interactive theorem proving using a dependent type theory); and especially
> when the discomfort falls primarily on one group of people (in this case,
> anglophone women).
>
> So I propose a solution for discussion: keep the name Coq and explain that
> the correct pronunciation in English of the tool name is "Coke" (and this
> pronunciation has nothing to do with the pronunciation of coq in French or
> cock in English). But for this solution to work, the whole (anglophone)
> community has to adopt it.
>
>



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