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- From: Derek Dreyer <dreyer AT mpi-sws.org>
- To: coq-club AT inria.fr
- Cc: Andrew Appel <appel AT princeton.edu>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?
- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 23:23:20 +0200
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Indeed, lots of good suggestions on the wiki. I particularly like the
suggestion of Coquina, which in addition to combining Coq and Gallina,
also has semantic value. According to Wikipedia, "Coquina
(/koʊˈkiːnə/) is a sedimentary rock that is composed either wholly or
almost entirely of the transported, abraded, and mechanically sorted
fragments of the shells of mollusks, trilobites, brachiopods, or other
invertebrates."
What's more foundational than a rock?! Especially one with
mechanically *sort*-ed fragments! ;-)
Best regards,
Derek
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:30 PM Talia Ringer <tringer AT cs.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> My favorite suggestions in the wiki are the ones that include Coq as a
> substring, so that you can keep referring to it as Coq in French, and just
> elaborate in English.
>
> Also, I'm really happy to see so many suggestions and so much constructive
> feedback in the Wiki! I would expect this community to be constructive ;)
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:45 AM Emilio Jesús Gallego Arias <e AT x80.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew Appel <appel AT princeton.edu> writes:
>>
>> > So I propose a solution for discussion: keep the name Coq and explain
>> > that the correct pronunciation in English of the tool name is "Coke"
>> > (and this pronunciation has nothing to do with the pronunciation of
>> > coq in French or cock in English). But for this solution to work, the
>> > whole (anglophone) community has to adopt it.
>>
>> Indeed, at the very least the Coq team should officially recommend to
>> pronounce "Coq" as "coke" in English; this is a solution not exempt of
>> flaws, but it seems to me that it is the only-short term viable
>> workaround for now.
>>
>> I will make the point on the next Coq dev meeting.
>>
>> My impression is that the Coq team would be happy to consider a name
>> change would a good replacement come up, there is indeed great concern
>> w.r.t. the side-effects of the current name.
>>
>> We don't get reminded often of it tho, I'd say mainly due to two reasons:
>>
>> - IAANM, there is not native English speaker in the Coq team
>>
>> - Research and work in France happens mostly in French, and it turns out
>> that "Coq" is a superb name in French! It is easily associated to
>> "national pride", which really helps (subconsciously) in national
>> funding contexts for example.
>>
>> Brainstorming a bit, a possibility to try to keep the best of both
>> worlds is to keep "The Coq Project" as the official name of the project,
>> however name the particular implementation distributed by the project in
>> a different way.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> E.
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, (continued)
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Derek Dreyer, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, jonikelee AT gmail.com, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Théo Zimmermann, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Emilio Jesús Gallego Arias, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Talia Ringer, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Kevin Sullivan, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Luís Cruz-Filipe, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Fabian Kunze, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Conor McBride, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Vadim Zaliva, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Derek Dreyer, 04/06/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Benedikt Ahrens, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Mario Carneiro, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Talia Ringer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Derek Dreyer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Andrej Bauer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Joyal , André, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Jay Kruer, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Xuanrui Qi, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Eddy Westbrook, 04/07/2021
- Re: [Coq-Club] Why is the Coq logo made to look like a penis?, Cyrus Omar, 04/07/2021
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