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- From: Christine Paulin <Christine.Paulin AT lri.fr>
- To: Cristóbal Camarero Coterillo <nakacristo AT hotmail.com>
- Cc: "jacques-henri.jourdan AT inria.fr" <jacques-henri.jourdan AT inria.fr>, "mail AT maximedenes.fr" <mail AT maximedenes.fr>, "coq-club AT inria.fr" <coq-club AT inria.fr>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:35:08 +0100
Very nice example but we should not misinterpret this last point
Following the arguments of my previous email, if we rewrite (False->True2)=True2 in the inductive definition we would get
Inductive True2:Prop:= I2: True2->True2.
which is False when the original is True.
in order to identify
Inductive True2:Prop:= I2: True2->True2.
with
Inductive True2:Prop:= I2: (False -> True2)->True2.
you need (False -> X) = X forall X (which is not provable when X is False) and not just False -> True2 = True2
because the name is bound in the inductive definition
so the problem is still the same around the elimination on Heq "
assume < is the structural order related to True2 generated by (forall y, f y < l2 f)
Fixpoint con (x:True2) :False :=
match x with
I2 f => con (match Heq with eq_refl => f end)
end.
The hypothesis
forall y, f y < x
we would like to prove
(match Heq in (False->True2=True2) return fun X _ => X with eq_refl => f end) < x
but eliminating Heq requires a generalisation
(match Heq in (False->True2=Z) return fun X _ => X with eq_refl => f end) < x
which is not well-typed.
This is this situation we need to detect and forbid.
The point being not to miss tricky situations
Christine
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, (continued)
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Maxime Dénès, 12/13/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Jacques-Henri Jourdan, 12/13/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Matthieu Sozeau, 12/13/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Jacques-Henri Jourdan, 12/13/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Matthieu Sozeau, 12/13/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Jacques-Henri Jourdan, 12/14/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, AUGER Cédric, 12/14/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Maxime Dénès, 12/14/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Christine Paulin, 12/15/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Cristóbal Camarero Coterillo, 12/16/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Cristóbal Camarero Coterillo, 12/16/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Christine Paulin, 12/16/2013
- RE: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Cristóbal Camarero Coterillo, 12/17/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Christine Paulin, 12/17/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Andrej Bauer, 12/17/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Bruno Barras, 12/18/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Vladimir Voevodsky, 12/18/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Maxime Dénès, 12/18/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Ali Assaf, 12/19/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Bruno Barras, 12/19/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Vladimir Voevodsky, 12/19/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, croux, 12/19/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Bruno Barras, 12/18/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Andrej Bauer, 12/17/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Christine Paulin, 12/17/2013
- RE: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Cristóbal Camarero Coterillo, 12/17/2013
- Re: [Coq-Club] Propositional extensionality is inconsistent in Coq, Christine Paulin, 12/16/2013
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