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- From: roconnor AT theorem.ca
- To: Jason Hickey <jyh AT cs.caltech.edu>
- Cc: coq-club AT pauillac.inria.fr, Study group on Mechanized Metatheory for the Masses <provers AT lists.seas.upenn.edu>
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types
- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:29:07 -0500 (EST)
- List-archive: <http://pauillac.inria.fr/pipermail/coq-club/>
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Jason Hickey wrote:
> Seriously though, I'm curious why Coq does not admit function
> extensionality. The PRL (Martin-Lof-style) type theories are carefully
> intensional with two exceptions--the function type is fully extensional,
> and the quotient type is partially extensional.
>
> [...]
>
> But, let me throw down the guantlet. Why are the Coq folks so backward
> as to refuse function extensionality? If there are technical reasons,
> why not be clear about it, and define a standard theory extension for
> people who care about reasoning, not complexity?
Presumably extensionality would break strong normalization? And without
strong normalization doesn't (dependant) type-checking break? I think
this is a case, but I am not an expert on these things.
Intensionality has never prevented me from proving something that I have
wanted to prove, although it has made some proofs more difficult. Of
course, perhaps thinking intensionally has perhaps coloured my view on
what I want to prove.
--
Russell O'Connor <http://r6.ca/>
``All talk about `theft,''' the general counsel of the American Graphophone
Company wrote, ``is the merest claptrap, for there exists no property in
ideas musical, literary or artistic, except as defined by statute.''
- [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Steve Zdancewic
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Conor McBride
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Benjamin Werner
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Conor McBride
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Benjamin Werner
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Haixing Hu
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Xavier Leroy
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Jason Hickey
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
jean-francois . monin
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Jason Hickey
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, roconnor
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Conor McBride
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Jason Hickey
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Frederic Blanqui
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Conor McBride
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, roconnor
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Jason Hickey
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
jean-francois . monin
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Benjamin Werner
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Jason Hickey
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types,
Conor McBride
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: [Coq-Club] Extensional Equality for Function Types, Frederic Blanqui
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