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- From: Maxime Dénès <mail AT maximedenes.fr>
- To: coq-club AT inria.fr
- Subject: Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?
- Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:19:24 -0400
On 08/04/2014 01:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:
On 08/04/2014 01:02 PM, Guillaume Melquiond wrote:
On 04/08/2014 18:20, Jonathan wrote:
How can you argue that a value of type "False \/ P" contains no
information? There are two constructors!
I can have a rewrite rule "False \/ P <-> P", which of course is
reversible. I am under the impression that a rewrite, by being
reversible, demonstrates that the two sides contain the same
information. So, there must not be any extra information in the "False
\/" part, so to speak. Is that incorrect?
Yes. As already pointed out by Arnaud, True \/ True is equivalent to True, which is a singleton type, yet it is isomorphic to bool, which is definitely not a singleton type. So just knowing about an equivalence is not enough for deciding whether a type can be destructed.
Best regards,
Guillaume
True \/ True is not isomorphic to bool. Instead, the eerily similar {True} + {True} is isomorphic to bool. At least if I am properly understanding isomorphisms.
-- Jonathan
The question is the following: what amount of information does a proof of a given proposition reveal if you allow to eliminate it to a type in Set. If the answer is "none", then the elimination can be allowed. The definition of singleton types gives a criterion that ensures it is the case.
Now, you were asking: is the answer to that question the same for proofs of two equivalent propositions. No, as Guillaume showed it : True and True \/ True are logically equivalent. Yet, if you allow to eliminate a proof of True to Set, you don't reveal anything, whereas allowing the same elimination from a proof of True \/ True reveals one bit of information. Relaxing the elimination restriction on True \/ True made it isomorphic to bool.
Maxime.
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, (continued)
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Cédric, 08/03/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/03/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/03/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/03/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Cédric, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Guillaume Melquiond, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Guillaume Melquiond, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Matthieu Sozeau, 08/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Daniel Schepler, 08/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Cedric Auger, 08/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Daniel Schepler, 08/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Arnaud Spiwack, 08/05/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Daniel Schepler, 08/06/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Guillaume Melquiond, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Jonathan, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Cédric, 08/04/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Maxime Dénès, 08/03/2014
- Re: [Coq-Club] what exactly are the Prop analysis rules?, Cédric, 08/03/2014
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